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The way im somewhat understanding this is that you make 2 seperate services using the same monorepo but im guessing and i dont want to just be guessing

the documentation doesnt do a good job of describing whats going on
it really doesn’t, the documentation on mono repos of any kind needs a lot of love, its absolutely not you.

The way im somewhat understanding this is that you make 2 seperate services using the same monorepo but im guessing and i dont want to just be guessing
you have guessed correctly, two services, from the same repo, and you would set the start commands (in the service settings) to the applicable command for what you want that service to run.

only issues im seeing here is that your start script for the frontend starts a development server, this will have very poor performace and use quite a lot of resources.

same with the dev script for the backend, you never want to use nodemon in production.

https://tenor.com/view/ffs-baby-really-oh-god-just-stop-gif-1639610178022128587

the whole reason i went back to using my mono repo was so i didnt have to do this 🤦‍♂️

ive been working for weeks trying to get my project thats pretty much already done hosted and its been such a nightmare

two apps need two railway services

so just to clarify my ignorance…theres no such thing as a single full stack hosted service anywhere? or is that just in railways case?

there is, but your frontend and backend are two apps, even if they share types, so they need two services

currently I technically already have 2 services setup, my backend is on railway and front end on netlify…but ive been having a bunch of cors issues and a guy thats been helping me told me to use the mono repo I had before and setup a proxy so I dont have the issues that ive been having

yeah you still need two services for that, we can setup a proxy if thats what you would like

yeah just give me a second cuz now I have to rethink and understand a bunch of stuff, imma check the link rq

theres really not much you need to do to get your mono repo deploying on railway, you are just starting dev servers, and not doing that is an easy fix

the link is what your project should look like (maybe minus a database)

(i have a template for the proxy)

Oh yeah no thats not the issue at all, its just I started trying to work in a way that allowed me to use a single service for this so I could use creact react apps proxy because the way i was previously working before was how you mentioned but the guy helping me just told me that having them split up like that makes everything harder which I could honestly verify because ive yet to get my sessions, cookies, and cors issues to work.

he suggested that its still possible on railway via docker config? 🤔

"if everything is in the same project (ie one git clone will give you everything you need) then you can do a multi-stage docker build that build your frontend and then pass that to the backend as static assets to be served as part of the api
and that approach will also make it easier to diagnose locally since you can run the build on your own computer and do a production build to make sure it works properly before handing it to railway"

yes you can have your backend serve the frontend, that is certainly one way, personally its not something i would do

yeah i mean im kinda out of options man 🤷

so i kinda have to try something else

because doing it that way hasnt worked for me and I dont know why so doing this is at least progress towards something

three options

• two railway services

• two railway services + a proxy

• one service - serve the frontend from the backend

i wouldnt either tho

you pick, ill help with whatever you pick

alright so lets do this then

what option?

2.)

good choice

question tho

of course

does it have to be 2 railway apps specifically? because like i mentioned earlier I already have a bakcend service and my frontend is on railway so its still 2 services but one of them in netlify? does that matter for setting up the proxy?

lemme send the link

did you want to keep the frontend on netlify?

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it doesnt make a difference to me tbh but id maybe lean to keep it there because I wanna keep my cost down on railway id guess

if switching it makes things easier…then no

keeping it on netlify would have the reverse effect, since if kept on netlify you will be charged extra egress from the proxy communications to the off-site frontend

oh? so it would cost more not having it in railway…interesting. I always see that word egress but didnt know thats what it meant

in that case yeah i can have it on railway

it would also have far more latency

egress is the amount of data out of the network

interesting, guess that makes sense. I thought storage would have cost more but goes to show how little i know lol

im setting it up rn

the frontend doesn't use any charge-able storage on railway

you will need to make some changes to your repo though, because as mentioned before, you are running both the frontend and backend in development modes

we want to save money here not burn it

the less resources your services use, the cheaper they are to run

oh yeah you mentioned alot of stuff earlier about not using nodemon and whatnot

share or add me to your repo and I'll see what changes need to be made

sry if i didnt catch everything i was talking back and forth with someone

which one?

no worries

both?

you have a mono repo, it is only one repo? wdym both?

also this channel doesnt have vc?

nope, no VC needed

ahhh, my apologies. I keep confusing people with this so I essentially have 3 repos. one is the monorepo and the 2 other ones are a divide of that mono repo so my frontend and backend. What i currently have hosted is the 2 seperate repos not my mono repo. Should I start from scratch and just use that monorepo instead of the two?

yeah that's quite convoluted, you should remove those two repos designated backend and frontend

gotcha

then add me to the first repo, my gh username is brody192

unless it's public, in that case just send the link

added

looking

no worries, im looking over stuff to and trying to make it work again in local dev

dont get too dug in, theres a good chance theres some changes we need to make that might interfere with what you are doing

mmm yeah…. every since i hosted my stuff the singular thing thats given me a problem and even now in local dev is giivng me an issue is user authentications / sessions / cookies…im just at a loss on what to do in that regard.

well this repo is technically a monorepo, its mushed together, this makes both it hard to run both locally and on railway

I thought that was supposed to make things easier?

i can't see how this makes anything easier, there is a right and a wrong way to do a shared monorepo, and this is not what you want to do, we will get you fixed up though

ah thats what you meant. gotcha

ill try my hand at a pr to get this repo in shape

sounds good. thank you 🙏

I gtg to work but ill be back and go over the changes. oddly enough my local dev sessions arent saving either which is the same problemI had when i had it hosted so in a way this could be a good thing or a hint since again its most likely configs

sounds good

if theres any repos or documentation you follow or suggest for how to properly set a monorepo up rather than slapping them all in the root directory like I did lmk to 👍

I just googled how to setup a npm workspace haha

did you see my branch?

ah, yeah i see it now

was it this? https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/v7/using-npm/workspaces

yep thats it

okay so do you wanna walk through how to deploy my branch?

I think I should quickly look over how all this works rq first, when I finish reading this and going over it ill lyk

sounds good

side note, I tried to separate the two apps best I could, but it's likely that I left bits and pieces of them in either folder, so when you have the time go through and clean that up

Yeah i was assuming that too, still thanks 1000X

might have some quick questions as I read

of course

for example the

"workspaces": ["./packages/*"]

is just return an array of both folder paths? so its essentially a shorter version of?

"workspaces": ["./packages/frontend", "./packages/backend"]

im assuming the * just means return all files

correct, there may be a time when you don't want every folder in the packages directory to be a workspace, but we currently do, so a wildcard is easiest

ah wait i just read more oops lol they tell you that down below. Ok yeah this makes sense. The only thing im noticing that im not seeing is this? what are these?

"start": "caddy run", ?

railway specific files and scripts?

railway does not run a frontend like netlify or vercel, it will run your app as is, and use the default start script, the default start script starts a development server, so that is what railway would run, so we need to provide a custom build plan to download caddy and run it.

nixpacks.toml installs caddy
the Caddyfile is the config for caddy
and the start command runs caddy

wow

how in the world do you know this 💀

this isn't my first rodeo

clearly lol must have been a headache, I just assumed that it would handle it or at the very least recognize that and make a custom build command but i would have never guessed having to manually do this yourself

nope railway is not like that, your code is ran as is, and if it's only setup to run a development server, than that's what will be ran

hmm I think I understand, so netlfy and vercel essentially make it for you but like you said railway makes it as is, so why isnt my backend caddy server.js for example? because node is setting up a backend server therefor node for backend is what caddy is for the front end on build/run commands?

you can think of caddy as a file server, nothing to do with node. its simply serving the built website files

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

definitely will do more research on it but I think i get the jist

imma test out the repo rn

locally?

ye

okay cool, there is a procedure to deploy onto railway, so let me know when you wanna do that

sounds good thank you 🙏

just attempted running it and I think the root package.json file needs a start script

nope

npm run frontend:dev
and
npm run backend:dev

ahhhh i was doing :start mb

hmmm

yeah thats weird i get the same error

when i used :start it said the same thing

please see the commands i have sent here

yeah those are what I put

copy and pasted and everything

I meant i get the same error except instead of start its combplaining about the dev

did you change anything? it works for me

nope, do i need to npm init maybe?

nope, it just works for me, show me your package.json from your backend

can you run start

you are running that command from the root right?

yep, you can see the command and the directory in the sc, i tried both start and dev and get that error

lemme try something

tried npm installing to make sure and restarded and yep i still get them,

I doubt it was the way I fetched the branch

might be this

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57605441/error-this-is-probably-not-a-problem-with-npm-there-is-likely-additional-loggi

imma see if i can figure it out but i think its most likely something do do with this

it still works for me locally, something is misconfigured on your end, try deleting and redownloading the branch

only other solution im seeing is to delete my node modules and resinstall

cant hurt to try

😂 i dont lol

lmao

just noticed something different but could you screen shot what your root directory looks like

this is mine now

what version of node are you using

ok thats what I thought. Yeah for some reason I had a nodemodules folder in my root, but now mine looks like that and i have one module folder in the frontend and backend folders….still getting that error though 💀 , and the error doesnt give much context

I looked in here too

have you tried this?

yep

even vscode is asking me wtf im doing

i saw that too

just so we are on the same page….git checkout -t origin/branch-name is what im doing for that branch?

i might just make a completely seperate local repo and clonse it just to make sure

i dont know, i dont use git cli

imma bout to fight my computer lol, lemme try cloning on a clean repo

nvm thats not a thing you can do in git

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-out-of-window-suicide-so-done-gif-8423077

yeah no you can only clone from the master branch and get the branches through it

what node verison are you using

i was actually about to ask the same thing earlier. 14.17.0

im like 99% sure this is a node issue

im on 18 lts
14 is far too old, please update

aight lemme try that

its 18.0.0 right?

nvm i got it v18.19.1

oh my god

it didnt work…but I ogt a different error

i should just need to install

or maybe i left it out of the backend's package.json by accident

yeah its not there lol

let me add it

dont add it to the package.json at the root

yeah i know, in the backend and front o nes

there was 1 or 2 missing in the frontend too but i just copy and pasted it in and npm i should work

lets see your package.json in the root please

I think it should be working now I just need to fix some file paths

i should have asked for your node version earlier 💀 why that solved it is beyond me

node 14 too old

they say if it aint old dont fix it….they lied

https://tenor.com/view/tom-calling-fbi-ynd_akash-gif-22063211

i dont think thats quite how the saying goes

old, broken, tomatoe tomatoe 😅

gonna take like another 2 minutes prob to fix these files cuzz i remember having to fix them when i split up my repos like this

hmmm… question..I need 2 env files in each of these instead of in my root directory dont i?

what are the env files for

variables like so

then yeah

aaaaand theres a node_modules folder in my root again for some reason….I think its being carried over from my master branch?

WHALAAA

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i dont think its a problem tbh

i spoke too soon

backend is good tho

whats wrong with the frontend

frontend node modules

lemme check something

seems like a package issues thats now broken of course. gotta get rdy for work but repo wise its working. After i resolve that and whatever comes up ill lyk when its rdy for deploy. Thanks again fam, not many people will take the time to do this and im learning alot 👍

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

happy to help!

alright so I fixed it and both the frontend and backend now work…now im back where I started as far as my original issue…and thats my sessions not saving…im going to go ahead and say this is probably why

google doing bs

doing it on firefox doesnt work either so it could not be this

or….is this where a proxy would solve it?

imma setup one to see

nvm….finally got it it looks like

gonna fix a few things then I should be good for deploy

Looks like everythings fine, only error im getting right now is this whenever I go to my landing page

other than that it should be good to deploy. im gonna push the changes

haha well what's going on with the manifest?

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

from what ive searched up it might have something to do with the index.html file…but again its only for the / landing page

• link tag

well see what the manifest response contains

easy enough to find out what's going on

opened up the project to get the error and all the sudden its not showing me that error anywhere when i didnt change anything….

problem solved