'echohack' user showing on my project
rjbathgate
PROOP

7 months ago

Hi

This is really concerning...

This morning I've woken up to see another user avatar showing in the top right of my project.

'echohack'

See attached image.

The logo matches this profile:
https://www.youtube.com/c/echohack

I have checked my account settings, team members etc and there is no other reference to this user/profile, and I certainly haven't added anyone!

What is going on? Is this a UI bug, or do I need to be really concerned?

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Railway
BOT

7 months ago

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rjbathgate
PROOP

7 months ago

Found this github account

https://github.com/echohack

Which reads:
sparkles emojisparkles emoji Solutions Engineer
@Railway

Why does he have access to my project?!


parmstar
EMPLOYEE

7 months ago

Hey RJ - That is David Echo - he is an employee here at Railway.


Status changed to Awaiting User Response Railway 7 months ago


parmstar

Hey RJ - That is David Echo - he is an employee here at Railway.

rjbathgate
PROOP

7 months ago

That's less worrying but still - why does he have access to my project? He shouldn't have... no one other than me should have access surely? I have ENV secrets in there for a start.

Yes, Railway might have debugging access but definatly not project level access.


Status changed to Awaiting Railway Response Railway 7 months ago


7 months ago

Hey RJ. Employees at Railway have the ability to look at Railway projects for debugging indeed. That's what this is.

Let me know if you've got any additional questions.

Jake Cooper

Founder @ Railway


Status changed to Awaiting User Response Railway 7 months ago


rjbathgate
PROOP

7 months ago

Hi Jake,

Thanks for the clarification — that does help put my mind at ease a bit.

That said, a couple of things still feel a little unclear from a user perspective:

  • Can Railway employees see environment variables in plaintext?

  • The way this appeared in the UI (seeing another user's avatar with no context) was quite jarring — I didn’t know they were a Railway team member, and it initially looked like someone had been added to my project without my knowledge.

  • Is there any particular reason this access happened now? Curious if something triggered it.

I totally understand that sometimes support or debugging requires Railway staff to jump in, but I think a quick heads-up or some sort of audit trail would go a long way towards making that feel more transparent and safe — especially when secrets are involved.

Appreciate your time, and thanks again.


Status changed to Awaiting Railway Response Railway 7 months ago


7 months ago

  • Can Railway employees see environment variables in plaintext?

They would have to trigger a decryption which would show up in the activity log (bottom right)

  • The way this appeared in the UI (seeing another user's avatar with no context) was quite jarring — I didn’t know they were a Railway team member, and it initially looked like someone had been added to my project without my knowledge.

Agreed. We've already escalated this to make it MUCH more clear cause we agree 100% it's jarring

  • Is there any particular reason this access happened now? Curious if something triggered it.

Unsure. But they'd have had your project open.

I totally understand that sometimes support or debugging requires Railway staff to jump in, but I think a quick heads-up or some sort of audit trail would go a long way towards making that feel more transparent and safe — especially when secrets are involved.

The project actions log in the bottom right should cover this. Anything else?


Status changed to Awaiting User Response Railway 7 months ago


rjbathgate
PROOP

7 months ago

Thanks, and appreciate the fact that it's already been escalated to make it clearer.

Suggest instead of the user's name and avatar it displays the Railway logo with the tag "Railway support staff are working on this project" or similar?

The project actions log in the bottom right should cover this.

There is no entry at all related to this new user. Perhaps by design, as they haven't done anything but just pointing it out, in case you'd expect it to show they were added to the project.

They would have to trigger a decryption which would show up in the activity log (bottom right)

I tested this by viewing a variable (presumably triggering a decryption), and again, no new entry in the activity log.

I am far less concerned now than when I was waking up to this, so thanks! (didn't help the user has the word 'hack' in their name!!)


Status changed to Awaiting Railway Response Railway 7 months ago


7 months ago

Suggest instead of the user's name and avatar it displays the Railway logo with the tag "Railway support staff are working on this project" or similar?

Oh this is actually a great suggestion! I'll forward it to the team.

I am far less concerned now than when I was waking up to this, so thanks! (didn't help the user has the word 'hack' in their name!!)

Lol. Yea that's, deeply alarming

Regardless, hopefully this abates that worry. We take your userdata and privacy very seriously; all admins are required to use 2FA + additional security.


Status changed to Awaiting User Response Railway 7 months ago


Status changed to Solved rjbathgate 7 months ago


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