N/A

N/A because im not sure which id to show, the backend id, or redis id?

And i just saw this: , does that mean im doing it wrong? Sorry im newbie with this stuff

you should check the variables on your app's service, not the Redis service

oh, okey, im going to check that now

mm I dont see any:

not sure if im doing it right

im confused right now I read that but im kinda same, im a noob at this

look at the picture

the picture i sent?

the picture in the docs page i sent

ah okey

^

im looking at it but i cant figure out, i mean what i understand is that some variables that are used in 2 places must be placed here, right

right

no, you have no need for shared variables

but this worked before for me at some point which is even more strange

ah right thats why it worked, cause they not needed then

I got these envs right now on my 2 services

wait when you say app service you mean like, my service-backend-project, right?

yes

send a link to the project please

here in my code i reference this

yes

https://railway.app/project/ac45a398-0f59-4db0-a0ae-8563e13ae3ba/service/dcb68b3d-3e20-43ae-b78e-76cf8f426dfe/variables

youre good, its using the private url

and REDIS URL seems a string I dont even remember where I got the value from, maybe it should be reference variable?

aah okey so im good there

it already is a reference variable

okey ✅ so thats ok

but yeah outbound is still like, big, it wasnt at some point god knows what happened not me xd

i dont really see any outbound on redis

thats not the redis service

cause im just basically getting the data from redis on cache in theory

ah

wait can you see where it comes from? i got a login and user-settings but no way thats 130 mb

no i cant

maybe my cache is just not working now? but it works locally, how could it not work same on railway? strange issue

i think maybe i messed up railway redis

because locally i always do redis flush all

but i cant flsh all on redis railway service, is there a way to flush all?

maybe old data is caussing some issue idk

again, you are connecting to redis via the private network, so there would be no measurable network

right, so all that data is 100% not redis then… mmm what could it even be idk

its any outbound data leaving the private network, could be mongo, could be sending data to your frontend

side question, where is the frontend service?

yeah its here, also having an issue with it where it crashes on a certain page when it tries to fetch some data: https://railway.app/project/e1a3daa8-0161-42a8-9945-2ddf4a33a66d

why is it in a different project?

wait what? i just see theres no repo connected to it, wtf

cause i had to create new project when i was setting it up

or maybe its mistake and should been a service?

but how is it no repo connected

ah wait right

because i uploaded with the weird react method

OOH

via cli

then its not updating

like backend

f0ck

^

funk

right

hold on hold on

how can I make it so that it does like backend it auto updates on git commit? is possible? that must be the issue 99%

cause i did commit pushed and thought already frontend updated like backend but no

thats gotta be the issue

1st question: can i fix it where it is now then move it to the same project?

delete it and deploy it into the correct project this time

ah okey, lets do that

if i rename project, does it affect anything in terms of functionality or its just name change?

just so instead of backend project ah i change it to project ah and put all the 3 services together: backend, frontend, and redis

just a name change

okey i changed that name now

so for the react thingy is there a way to make it like, automatically build from github repo everytime or i gotta do the cli setup every time?

lets get the service into the correct project first

yeah ima delete the frontend project 1 sec

done

right, so first of all i create an empty service

then i use this, right: https://docs.railway.app/guides/react

oh theres a one click template option, but i never used template before

no, you already did that.

empty service -> name the service -> set variables -> deploy -> create domain -> attach github repo -> deploy

ah, okey

theres no variables in the frontend except the process.env.REDIS_URL I think being only exception. So for that I gotta use reference variable I believe

the frontend does not need redis

ah right

you are right

the frontend should need a backend api domain variable though

for now im just hardcoding the values but will change in future dont worry

okey so i cant see the domaint hingy

yeah i cant see it in settings

fixed

ah deploy

okey

shows me this

i click there to make a deployment yes?

idk

id go with the big deploy button

oke

it just sends me here: https://docs.railway.app/quick-start

no it does not

wait

ah no

the purple button you meant right

the deploy one, wasnt looking at it

it shows me this now

it seemed pretty noticeable to me lol

sorry im not used to the interface yet

i miss on obvious stuff

continue with the steps i gave you

i been user of railway for few years but actively went back just like few days ago

okey

okey i created domain, next is attach github repo

and next deploy, okey

okey its doing stuff its loading

YEEES

GOOD JOB!

it was this thing man, i can finally see my data again my stuff 🥹 nice!

lets see if it also fixes the outbound stuff, right? because now in theory it same project

okey so 1st request is this: 130mb, completely normal, data is not cached (i need to re-cache every hour btw its not a permanent cache)

so now i wait like 2 mins and reload the page again to re-fetch, in theory from cache and hopefully no more big outbound data like this 130 mb

no it wont, to avoid outbound traffic you need to use the private network and you cant use the private network for client side rendered websites, or 3rd party services such as mongo

wait…

😢

if i recall correctly ive said that a few times

you probably did but i did not get it, im too slow with all these stuff im new to it and my mind if like close to explode plus im coding so much these days learning stuff too im like exhausted mentally tbh

so theres no absolute way to cache the 130 mb response for the frontend theres no trick or workaround? my app literally wont be profitable if I dont find a way to do that idk what to do 😦

and i spent months on it omg idk

dont send 130mb worth of data to the frontend then

right…right, i just cant, it defeated my entire plan but theres no work around

though im just going off that you are saying, id first figure out what this outbound traffic is

must think of something

ah

yeah its the 120k items, but its weird because the size is about 65 MB

55 to 65 MB, no idea why it shows 130 MB, its like it fetching the data twice, but is not.

figure out where this outbound traffic is going

ima try

is your frontend actually downloading 130mb of data?

only 65

cant be a coincidence than 130 mb is twice 65

we are not double counting outbound

else {
console.log("through the else");

const userDesiredItemsFromCache = await retrieveArrayFromRedis();

res.json({
  items: userDesiredItemsFromCache,
  update: {
    nextMinute: timer.minute,
    nextSecond: timer.second,
  },
});

}

thats my cache code

maybe retrieveArray is doing it twice idk need to see that

doesnt seem like

are you console logging 65mb worth of data?

yeah

lets not do that

that could be the issue maybe?

no

ah

yeah i removed the console.logs

rest of code on the cached version are these:

theres an if below, but im going through the else on all cached (verified im going through it)

find a way to not send 65 mb worth of data to the frontend

yeah thats something i need to do, but lets ignore this for a moment now and try to see why it takes 130 mb

im not doing a double operation there and im just fetching a timer from mongoDB thats an object with 3 fields

connectedRealms is not even a fetch but its an object with like 100 fields, neither can be that

dont really know what to tell you, i have no way of looking at your network traffic

and getHighestTime returns about 300 KB

ah right

well no worries I will have to change all of this somehow and hopefully that fixes that issue as well, who knows

but yeah

brb dinner

Hi Brody, I got it way way lower now frontend response is about 2 MB, for some reason it will still shows 4 MB but i think thats fine.

So I want to try and calculate the cost of a user network usage based on this, you let me know if what i say makes sense

scroll to the bottom -

So a user makes request of 4 MB to my app, he will lets say, do it on average around 4 times per hour, so 16 MB per hour. I expect the user to (at most, lets put higher case) use this app for 8 hours a day, 25 days a month. so thats 3200 MB, 3,2GB

so that should be 0.32$ network usage

does this make sense?

yeah I know pricing its 0.1$ per 1 GB of network egress

just want to make sure I understand the thing with this simplified math I did for an estimate

ooh

scroll to the bottom please

I can make example there, nice

okey I do example there thanks ✅

switch to resource-based

yes

✅

well you absolutely will not be using 0 cpu and 0 bytes of memory

and that's only 1 users worth of networking

oh yeah yeah

i meant just to calculate the network of 1 user, yes

cause then I have some doubt, RAM for example, it takes around 400 MB of RAM per app load, but like they just load the app and then they can see all data they dont need to reload often just once every hour for user, for new data to come in because external API updates every 1 hour. so maybe they are using the app 1/3 of all the entire time of a day, so that would be 400 MB of RAM divided between 3, so 133 MB RAM average cost per user, does my example make sense?

nope

oh, how do i calculate it then

put in your average cpu and memory usage

right its what i mean, the average it is the cost for RAM and CPU

so put in the average and it will tell you the cost

so if user peaks 400 MB on app load doesnt matter because lets say he does 1 app load per month then average would be super low, like 10 MB or whatever

right

I highly doubt your app could idle down to 10mb

especially with replicas

you think even less, or more?

far more, it's node

ah no no, forget the app, it will have a base RAM cost

but im thinking the added RAM usage per user right now

idle is probably 300 MB, but per user maybe on average it adds 10 MB, is what I mean,based on my above example here

then put that into the calculator