What's this amount on my usage?
possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

<@751584818390892654> i've verified, what's this $600+ on my usuage?

60 Replies

Can you click "show breakdown"?


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

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"Estimated Bill" is just estimated, it's what Railway might think what your "Current Usage" will be at the end of the term


It doesn't 100% accurately represent what you will be paying


brody
EMPLOYEE

25 days ago

True but they should still make sure that it's an incorrect estimation


How many days have you been running this service (or services) for?


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Started yesterday


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Why is it there then? I’m confused 🙃


Railway needs data to estimate it, if it's only been a day it makes sense that it's accurate


I reckon you'd end up with a bill less than ~200$ at the end of the term (your egress is quite high)


It seems your use case is egress heavy, if you share a bit more about how you are using Railway maybe we could help optimize things a bit


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

So if I end my services now, what will I end up paying after the term?


dev
MODERATOR

25 days ago

The Current Usage is what you'd need to pay at the end of the term (so far) so if you stop all your services and remove all volumes so that there is nothing costing you extra then you'll pay 5.65 usd


Don't forget the minimum 20$ for pro plan


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

I’m running a Scanner 🙂


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

2 scanner services


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Sorry?


Replace hobby plan with pro plan, and 5$ with 20$, same thing

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possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

I upgraded from hobby plan to pro plan



possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

So what I’m to pay will be the 5.6$ highlighted correct? It might turn to $600+ before the term ends is that what this means?


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Based on my usage?


dev
MODERATOR

25 days ago

You pay for your plan's cost (in this case 20usd) along with any usage incurred (in this case 5.65 usd)
the first 20 usd of usage in your plan is free however, so you don't have to pay that 5.65 usd, just the 20usd for pro plan


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Damn, it’s gettin complicated the more I try to understand


Understandable honestly


In 1 day you've transferred ~85GB out of Railway, if there's a way you can avoid that you'll be running for very cheap. Railway recently launched Buckets (Object Storage) so you can store heavy files and save on egress costs


An example:

My usage for this month is 10$
The pro plan gives you 20$ of free usage
So 10$ - 20$ = 0$ (min of 0)
Then +20$ for the pro plan itself
You pay 20$

My usage for this month is 30$
The pro plan gives you 20$ of free usage
So 30$ - 20$ = 10$
Then +20$ for the pro plan itself
You pay 30$


dev
MODERATOR

25 days ago

Okay let me simplify this then

The 600usd you're seeing comes from Railway making an estimate based on your current usage, I can see you have a lot of egress - this means if you downloaded something from a service that was 50gb then Railway might think that this 50gb egress is a frequent thing and therefore will tell you that it expects a larger amount than you might have to pay in reality.
-# On the other hand if that egress didn't come from a one-off action then it's likely the estimation is somewhat accurate and could be worth investingating further.

Right now, if you pause all your services then you have incurred 5.65 usd in usage. I explained how the pricing works but you can think of it this way: You pay at minimum 20 usd a month regardless of what your current usage is. Meaning if your usage is 10usd then you pay 20usd, if your usage is 25usd then you pay 25usd.


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Oh, so if I stop my service now, and term ends and current usuage was like 6$, I will end up paying 0$? Because my 20$ plan has covered it?


You will end up with 20$ as your plan is 20$


yellowmacaroni
PRO

25 days ago

Just think of it as you pay the largest out of the plan cost ($20) and the usage cost ($600) - max(20, usage) meaning that if you stop the service now you will pay max(20, 6) = 20


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

I've stopped the service but estimate hasn't reduced ((


You can ignore that, no services running means your "current usage" will not go up


And "current usage" is what is used for billing


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Other webservice are still running, but the scanners are stopped. Does it mean i have to stop ALL service on railway?


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

the price is scary for me, and i have a mini project hosted on another service which doesn't encure much, scared it might affect me when i can't pay back such estimate… it's currently at $1000+


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

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possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

Okay my other servies are not affected

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Can you show the usage of all your projects?


You can blur out the names if you want


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

how to see that?


Should be a bit of scrolling down


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

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Just removing/stopping the top service would stop any further 'major' costs


The 6.84$ will still be included at the end of the billing cycle


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

i just want the 900 to move to 1.3 like the others <:leosmug:935610138151231488> … I"m okay with the 6$ it was worth it… about the 900$ lets do something about


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

what do i do now?


The 900-100$ is almost definitely inaccurate
If the "current cost" for the top project represents the last 24h, will be around 200$ for 31 days

The main factor for the high cost is your egress, scanner/scraping is networking heavy so it makes sense


How many services are in that project? Are you using private networking for internal requests between services?


possible0xfat8
PROOP

25 days ago

  • about 5 services are in the project

  • I'm using public networking for internal requests, the internal requests are for the postgres db


Internal requests should 100% be via private networking


Internal requests via public networking are included in egress costs


possible0xfat8
PROOP

2 days ago

Hello guys, I have another question

I stopped the service that is costing me alot, and i want to downgrade to hobby plan, what do I need to know about that? Will i be charged for the usuage accurred already or not?

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possible0xfat8
PROOP

2 days ago

@astrid(irl)* @YellowMacaroni @Fragly @CrisOG


dev
MODERATOR

2 days ago

You will be charged for existing usage, yea

Personally, I wouldn't recommend downgrading to hobby plan
Since your usage is around 20usd, you might as well be paying for pro plan, there would be little difference in what you're ultimately charged if you downgrade (assuming you maintain a ~20usd monthly usage)

That is unless you downgrade to hobby plan you intend to use much less than 20usd of usage, if that is the case then downgrading would be wise


dev
MODERATOR

2 days ago

You can downgrade in Plans -> Downgrade To Hobby


possible0xfat8
PROOP

12 hours ago

Yes that is the plan, so when do you suggest I downgrade. Now or on 10th?


dev
MODERATOR

12 hours ago

in my opinion: if downtime doesnt matter then you can get 2 extra days for free by waiting, but if you want zero downtime then just downgrade tomorrow


possible0xfat8
PROOP

12 hours ago

Thank you, I will set a reminder them and update you once it’s don


dev
MODERATOR

12 hours ago

sounds good


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